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Leveraging AI for Business: How Automation and AI Boost Efficiency and Growth

2025-03-06 •Youtube

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Artificial Intelligence (AI) is revolutionizing how businesses operate, streamlining tasks, and automating processes to increase efficiency. In the latest episode of the Building Better Developers podcast, hosts Rob Broadhead and Michael Meloche dive into the practical applications of Leveraging AI for business, exploring how it can enhance productivity and decision-making.

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*Challenge for Listeners*

Rob and Michael encourage listeners to experiment with leveraging AI for business workflows. They challenge businesses to take an existing task, such as responding to customer emails, and use AI to enhance efficiency. By leveraging AI, businesses can save time, improve productivity, and focus on innovation.

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*Additional Resources*

* AI Habits to Embrace for Efficiency and Growth (https://develpreneur.com/ai-habits-to-embrace-for-efficiency-and-growth/) * Leverage AI To Solve Problems In New Ways (https://develpreneur.com/leverage-ai-to-solve-problems-in-new-ways/) * Boost Your Developer Efficiency: Automation Tips for Developers (https://develpreneur.com/boost-your-developer-efficiency-automation-tips-for-developers/) * Automation and Batching Tasks for Improved Productivity (https://develpreneur.com/automation-and-batching-tasks-for-improved-productivity/)

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all righty then uh and let's just Dive
Right into
AI uh because I may have people they're
like wanting to Stage more room so I'm
just hoping that they're not like piling
in here as we're wrapping this one or at
least that it doesn't interrupt us too
much so we will go with our three two
I'm G to click this little guy because
that's annoying to me one well hello and
welcome back we are continuing our
episodes our season our series building
better developers we are building
businesses this time around and this
episode I alluded to it in the bonus
material this episode we're going to
talk about Ai and we've we talked last
episode about uh processes and
procedures and templates and now we're
going to like take it that next step and
like how do you take Ai and make use of
it because everybody's heard of it these
days almost everybody can spell it so
let's dive into that for this episode
but first I want to introduce myself my
name is Rob Broadhead I one of the
founders of develop andur also a founder
of RB Consulting where we are what they
refer to as like Boutique Consulting
we're not desktop support we're not like
just generalists we actually sit down
with you understand your business help
you craft a plan for technology through
simplification automation integration
Innovation we help you figure out what
is the best route for you and the best
way for you to use technology to they
get that technology sprawl maybe that
you have if you've been trying to work
on this for years or to give you like a
really good road map moving forward if
you're just starting out say how do I
how do I leverage technology not only
today but 6 months and six years from
now and doing so in a CA situation where
you're not like every year having to say
okay we got to like throw everything out
we got to rebuild everything we didn't
build anything that can grow so now
we've got a you know it's like having a
house and you have a kid every year and
then next year like buy a new house
build a new house build a new house
that's sort of how your business may be
because you're you grow sometimes very
quickly and we want to help you build a
solution that grows with you good things
and bad things oh this just like two
sides of the same not really two sides
the same coin but it's the same thing in
a sense because the good thing is we
finally managed to get out have a little
bit of time and just went and saw a
movie last night went and saw the latest
uh Captain America movie which was good
it's like haven't sat down and seen a mo
a Marvel theater movie in I don't know
how long it's been a while so it was a
fun time the bad side is it could have
been more fun because they didn't have
heat on in there so we sit down and like
two minutes I'm normally cold doesn't
bother me I'm not very far into the
movie where I'm like taking my coat off
and wrapping it around my legs because
my legs are freezing and I got jeans on
so it's not like I'm sitting there in
shorts or anything but it was cold and
it was like this is like odd little like
we're going to go down a rabbit a hole
little bit here on this one it's like
one of these odd things it was it was
cold and I had my coat on all that kind
of stuff but the thing that was driving
me nuts is my nose was so freaking cold
it was like when you're snow skin and
you got like your goggles you got your M
but only your little noses there and
it's like I could not figure out how to
like warm my no I wanted to just dip my
nose into like a cup of hot soup or
something like that it was just one of
those odd little things so I probably
over shared but that's okay because I'm
G to pass it on to somebody who may even
do the same Michael go ahead and
introduce yourself hey everyone my name
is Michael M I'm one of the co-founders
of developing n billing better
developers I'm also the founder of
Envision QA where we do very similar
things Rob's company does but we take
the approach of essentially the test
perspective from the user stories we
walk you through your company as your
user we understand how your software is
supposed to work or how your processes
work and then we make sure that the
software you have really is doing what
your business needs it to do if not we
can help you customize and create your
own software or we can help you find the
right tools to essentially grow your
business and streamline your
processes good bad this week uh good I
really knuckled down I got heads down uh
with one of the projects I'm working on
spent a great deal of time going through
data and figuring out processes as I
said and the bad side to that is I maybe
get to spend about 10 hours with my wife
this week so uh little too much work but
got a lot done but a little less time
with family uh just because I was so
heads down and trying to get things
moving forward so for those of you that
work a lot do try to make time for your
family because they are important to
us that is that is one of the things you
gotta like we got a lot going on you got
to make sure that you're keeping track
of that because you want that Personal
Touch you don't want like the cold kind
of Technology thing that AI might give
you so that's we'll say that's a good
little segue into I want to talk about
this time is AI and really leveraging AI
for tasks particularly like let's
there's a lot there's a lot of ways you
can go with it I really want to keep us
sort of focused on processes procedures
and
templates because that was the last
episode and this is sort of like the
next step maybe or maybe it's part of
that step uh for example last episode we
talked about the challenge being like
pick a process and create a template or
or like refine that process you find a
way to just do that a little better to
make a little bit of improvement now ai
is a way to do this now it's you may not
think of it but one of the nice things
about AI at this point is I'm going to
go actually I'm going to go with two
things so one of the nice things is two
things so if you're keeping track maybe
I don't do math good sometimes um one is
the the repetitive types of stuff the
templates that are out there it used to
be that you had to like you know get a
book or you know you had to pay like a
consultant or a company or something
like that to provide you with a template
that was pretty useful now a lot of
times AI can get you there very quickly
if you say write me uh you know I need a
template for an email for responding to
a customer request for you know a refund
or something like that or uh I need to I
like give me a template for building an
email that is just a cold call approach
to talking to somebody you will get
information back and you can actually
work with AI a little bit and do some
refinements and get something that is
very specific useful and what you want
you know what really like makes you you
and of course as long as you're there
you you can put your personal touch into
it so you can let AI get you you know
8020 rule get you 80% of the way there
and then you go back and you can say hey
i' like I want to tweak this I want to
add this I want to adjust that I'm
thinking about this and like that's one
of things I think I'm going to go back
and look at like maybe my elevator pitch
and some of that kind of stuff let's
talk about um but that's where AI can
help you out is it's then this is where
the part two of it is is it can give you
another voice another opinion on
whatever it is you're doing so even if
you're sitting there in a meeting room
with 15 people discussing options for
your business and how you want to go you
could throw something into Ai and now
you have plus one more and depending on
how you utilize AI sometimes you can
feed it information that is going to
help it have that opinion based on a
certain point of view so like some
people early on were like saying hey
give me write me a you know I'm going to
take the day off email for my boss but I
want it in the tone of a pirate or
something like that and it's like it'll
give you st that or you know take this
and then put it in the tone of that or
pretend like it's coming from you know
do take this email and make it like how
would Bart Simpson write it or something
like that what we can do is take some of
those those same kind of things is have
those conversations ask those questions
and say hey based on like this book
or this chunk of code or this thing or
that thing based on this
context tell me what I would expect to
get from you know what would I get
expect to get back if I put it in this
context because sometimes that gives you
not only another opinion but a very
focused and maybe even very educated
other opinion doesn't mean it's right
but it does give you that idea of like
hey I can get I can generate something
very quickly that otherwise might take
me a lot of
research there's a lot you can do there
that will help you take some of these
regular processes and procedures and
either get started you know give you a
really good template if you can't find a
template or help you refine the one you
have because you can take your template
and say hey I don't find like I don't
find this converting how would I write
you for example like how would I take
this web page and make it convert
customers better something like that and
you're going to get ideas they may not
be great it's like the you know the art
all the art AI we've seen where this guy
like people have 15 different hands or
something like that but if you take that
it can maybe there's going to be maybe
some thoughts or some ideas or some some
gems are going to be buried in there
you're like oh I didn't think about that
I'm going to take that and apply that
into my my content or whatever my
processes so right now I'm G an example
I'm not going to send it to an AI I'm
gonna give it to Michael and he's going
to give you his thoughts on this thanks
Rob so first thing I'll give you a
slight disclaimer with AI if don't put
anything in the AI that is
proprietary uh that if you're like
medical don't put in patient information
because anything you put into a any AI
tool they
own and you want to make sure that you
protect your intellectual rights your
copyrights things of that nature so you
do want to be a little cautious with
what you put in AI however with that
being said there is a lot we can do with
AI for instance if you have like a
podcast you can take the transcript from
the podcast feed it into Ai and have it
summarize some bullet points and then
you can quickly write your blog on that
I am guilty uh the other things you can
do is you could also for sad blog say
hey help me write some social media
posts on different platforms now a
little caveat with that you do have to
train it a little bit to get your
feedback like Rob said you kind of want
to maybe ask it for your different
audiences or that you're trying to talk
to so one of the cool features you can
do with AI is say hey write me that
social media post but then add a small
caveat and say hey write me this post
for these platforms but Target the
particular uh audiences of those
platforms and you actually will get a
different response for each platform now
it may not be exactly what you want but
it is going to give you a much better
starting point than starting from
scratch so typically that takes you less
than 30 seconds to type that into AI you
get the content and you may spend
another 15 minutes uh tweaking it and
then you can post it the best part is
that saves you probably an hour from
going out to every single social media
site try to write something out there or
writing one message copy and pasting it
to multiple platforms which then you
kind of get stale because then they're
either going to follow you on one not on
the other and you might not be hitting
the right audiences on different social
media
platforms uh some the other things with
AI which is really cool uh we kind of
talked about this I think in the
pre-show last time uh was if you are
working on your business or you're
building your business and you don't
have all the employees you need some of
the things you need to get started yes
branding but you also need some of that
HR and Internal Documentation that you
need you can use AI to say hey build me
a business plan or oh hey go build me a
employee manual or a CO of contact
conduct you can then take that and
refine it for your business instead of
you having to go hire someone to spend a
lot of time to build this if you don't
have the cash up front or the time you
can use the AI to get you something
there quickly may not be perfect but
it's enough to get you kind of the
groundwork to get your business going uh
and to make sure that you're covered in
certain
areas and lastly uh the thing that uh I
like you talked about um you know giving
you another voice it's actually funny
depending upon the AI tool you use so
don't just stick with one sometimes it's
better off going to different AI
channels is if you want a conversation
like hey I want a to write an article to
talk about this particular topic but I
am addressing or like say I'm talking to
a room of high school students college
kids adults businesses you can Target Ai
and ask them hey do this or how would
you respond to this the thing is do that
in multiple AI
chats repeat the process a couple of
times because different AI Bots are
trained differently and you're going to
get different responses some are better
than others some are great at writing
code some suck at writing code uh some
are really good at writing sonets and
others are really good at writing
business documents so you just have to
make sure you're using the write tool so
if you're writing or if you're using Ai
and you're typing in something but
you're not quite getting what you want
try another AI tool you might get a
different response that is more in line
with what you're looking for but before
you just go with that one I would take
this uh take the response from the one
that works and say copy that paste it
into the one that didn't quite work and
say okay this is kind of what I'm
looking for can you duplicate it and
sometimes just the different wording
inputs into AI will get you different
outputs so this also trains you on how
to talk to AI to help AI give you the
information you need
back I think that's probably the
probably the biggest thing is or the
biggest benefits you will get over time
with AI is the more you use it uh you
will learn just like what they referred
to as Google Fu back in the day your
ability to search and Google you're
going to get the same thing from AI but
it's that's part of it is it's a
learning system system so what you feed
it it's going to essentially regurgitate
back to you and so as you're getting in
there and building it you're going to
pause why Michael says something I was
just going to say uh that made me think
of the uh dragon dictionary the the talk
to speak because you had to spend a lot
of time training the software to get the
uh quality that you needed from the
software AI is a very similar
tool very much so and it's one of those
that like like anything else you you got
to give to get you're going to have to
spend some time put some effort into it
to train the tool and this is where you
it is valuable to have a actually log in
and have an account on these things yes
you can go in anonymously and all that
kind of stuff but there is a value to
having you know register and have that
so it can tie stuff to you now granted
you don't want to give up you know
personal information and stuff like that
but you do want to have some way to sort
of like have it learned from you or just
in the conver the conversations with the
AI go in there and and you know sort of
keep that conver keep that thread going
and you know say what about this or how
about this or what about this case and
then that's like that's feeding more
information into it and that's allowing
you to build out an actual intelligence
that is based off of where you want to
go with it now obviously if you start
sending it down a certain path then it's
going to go down that path and that may
not necessarily be what you want to do
so there is a value of hitting a fresh
AI you know different engine or
something like that that doesn't isn't
we say poisoned by your previous
conversations but instead gives you
maybe a way to you know think outside
the box and go in a different direction
so those are I think that's why you're
like anything else and just like we
talked about last time don't do all the
work and then not use it this is
something where if you go in and you use
AI for like one thing and never again
then you're probably not going to get as
much benefit as you do if you do it on a
regular basis and it's an engine where
it's able to essentially know you or
remember you so because if you do that
it's going to say like hey you asked me
to do an email and then you ask me to do
a status and so it's going to take the
the tweaks that you did to those and
carry those forward to your next thing
so when you say well hey I want to do a
proposal it's going to start having some
of that information built into it to say
like oh you typically go this direction
and so it's going to start going that
way so make sure you know that's where
you put the effort in and you will get
the effort back thoughts before a
challenge so the last thing I will touch
on with that is AI is still in its
infant as far as the general public is
concerned there are more advanced AI
behind the scenes but if you go down one
of those rabbit holes don't be afraid to
tell AI hey this is not going in the
direction I want roll it back the last
thread that it was working was back up
here that will also help train the AI
that oh this isn't
the right path or the right you
essentially have to tell it when it's
not doing the right thing don't just use
the check marks and thing I find those
don't work as well if you actually tell
AI hey that is not the response I want
but give it feedback tell it hey I
actually was looking for something a
little bit more along the lines of this
sometimes that will immediately get the
AI back on track and you can keep the
message
going yeah it's it just like because I
always think of those art things where
it's like you know just an insane like
really bad picture um sometimes you have
to it will go off the rails just like we
do sometimes and so you you do something
to essentially reset it and get it back
on track um because you usually you're
going to be able to notice when it's
suddenly like you know you're talking
about you know a chicken recipe and the
next thing you is telling you like how
to kill people a thousand different ways
like okay we've gotten off track let's
like roll back to where we want to go
with it sometimes those weird things
happen uh sometimes there from a
business point of view sometimes it may
get you down a path you're saying like
oh I just found a whole new line of
business so sometimes it's okay to go
down those rabbit Trails Trails but just
be aware when you do so because
sometimes there's like it's a bad Trail
to go down I'll leave it at that
challenge for the week is try it try out
AI take one of these things um the
easiest stuff is like take an email
response particularly if it's one that
you do on a regular basis or if it's
already one that you've got a
autoresponder that's like I always send
this thing say take something like that
or one of these templates that hopefully
you've now created from prior Challenge
and put it in Ai and just say is there a
better way for me to take this and
accomplish whatever your goal is you
know for example like email if it is uh
a response to request from a customer or
potential customer throw it into Ai and
say hey is
there take this response and make it
better if I want to sell to a customer
or how do I make this response more
likely to have a customer respond in a
positive way you know things like that
and then see how it goes see where it
goes take a couple of those things and
you'll get something different and if
you use it then it may be a good
opportunity for you to make some
improvements on it so go for it I mean
one of the best things you can do is say
hey how do I make building better
developers better and one of the ways
and it's probably going to tell you I
should almost I almost wanted to go do
this right now it's probably going to
say send an email to info@ developer
nerd.com because that is going to be a
great way to get your opinion heard and
for us to hear where you want to go and
to integrate that into future episodes
also and this was where AI may give you
other options like you could go into the
contact us form on developer or.com you
can leave feedback anything any article
on developer or.com you can leave
feedback wherever you hear podcasts you
can leave feedback out on the developer
nerd Channel on YouTube and if AI
doesn't give you these answers then you
need to go to a better AI because
obviously that one is not the I is
pretty weak and it's mostly just a big a
a lot of artificial not a lot of
intelligence yeah I'm throwing shade at
the AI engines out there just deal with
it so now we're going to be block we're
like blacklisted every every be like I
don't know what the heck that is that
just sounds stupid don't talk to those
people they're anti- AI they're probably
like they need to be arrested or
something like
that see sometimes we go off the rails
too that being said we're going to let
you get your day back on the rails go
out there and have yourself a great day
a great time and we will talk to you
next time bonus
material
so just a little additional tack on from
the previous uh discussion is as you're
building your business or as you're
working your business run through some
AI if you are questioning or not sure
what to do ask AI however
be very careful with certain things that
you go to AI for for instance if you go
ask it for tax uh information or how to
file taxes or do things with taxes be
careful with that make sure you take
whatever you have and actually verify
that with the CPA because you don't want
to do something that AI says oh yeah
this is right and it's completely
illegal so just be very cautious with
certain areas of the business still
right now with AI use it though play
with it see what you can do with it and
really challenge it you know if you have
this idea for something uh again watch
out for intellectual properties but try
to train AI for instance to build me a
better mouse trap and just play around
with that or for those of you Gamers out
there uh you know try to do a Dungeons
and Dragon Story with it try to play
like a little DM make AI or DM uh those
are very good ways to just kind of get
integrated with AI and start learning it
and start playing with it yeah those are
I think those kind of the what's for
lack of better term we'll call like the
gamification of AI is I think there's a
lot of little things like that that you
can do even for entertainment so it
could be stuff like ask AI to write a
story
about I don't know like a you know a
trip to the coast or something like that
just pick something and and see where it
goes with it I think those kinds of
things just getting used to
what it brings to the table um I think
is is probably going to be you know
probably one of the best ways for you to
to get to know it to get
to understand where you can go with it
and and it really is it's like for lack
of learning it's language it's like how
do I take this and make
it make this uh this story or this
response something that is in line with
what I'm looking for and not just you
know just some random thing sort of like
gole Google searches it's like how do I
make sure that this is like I'm on the
page one of the search results and I'm
not like 4,000 Pages down and I'm
getting to something that has really
nothing to do with what I'm what I'm
actually looking for it's like that will
and it's you know it's again it's one of
those things that like I think the more
you do it the more you get comfortable
with it the more likely you're going to
do it more often I I found that for me
at very at the very least is that
initially I would like I would do AI
here and there and and do these various
things but then
you know I got to a point where I was
like wow this is
like this is something that I can use
for for this process and this process
and this process and this process and
it's it's more and more I do stuff where
it's like it's there's sites out there
that that leverage this kind of stuff
that you know they've gotten me thinking
like oh well I could do something like
that you know there's like there's all
these little things that I'll stop there
like the more you use it I think the
more you'll be comfortable using it and
the better the better it'll be for you
you know moving forward closing thoughts
yeah the only other thing I would throw
out there is if
you have like this kind of goes back to
some of our other discussions um about
like growing your business and things of
that nature if you have a lot of like
daily tax things that you do or you find
yourself overwhelmed by working on the
business not in the business run those
ideas through AI treat AI as like a
virtual assistant and see what it comes
back with to help you streamline your
processes
that yeah that goes back to like yeah
this is a sec it's a second set of
another opinion it's a second set of
eyes or a third set of eyes or however
you look at it so it's like everything
else is like find the way to use the
tool the way the tool needs to be used
like if it's a nail make sure you've got
a hammer if you've got to cut a board
Hammer is not very useful use it as a
saw it's that same kind of thing as
understanding how to use
that tool that being said we'll wrap
this one up so thank you so much for
your time as always we appreciate you
the AI appreciates you even if it
doesn't appreciate me now because I
threw shade hey that's life and it's
life so go out there and live it as
Michael says that is one of the things
it's more important than work so go out
there have yourself a great time and we
will talk to you next time around
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all righty then uh and let's just Dive

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AI uh because I may have people they're

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much so we will go with our three two

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welcome back we are continuing our

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episodes our season our series building

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better developers we are building

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businesses this time around and this

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episode I alluded to it in the bonus

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material this episode we're going to

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talk about Ai and we've we talked last

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episode about uh processes and

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procedures and templates and now we're

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going to like take it that next step and

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like how do you take Ai and make use of

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it because everybody's heard of it these

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days almost everybody can spell it so

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let's dive into that for this episode

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but first I want to introduce myself my

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name is Rob Broadhead I one of the

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founders of develop andur also a founder

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of RB Consulting where we are what they

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refer to as like Boutique Consulting

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we're not desktop support we're not like

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just generalists we actually sit down

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with you understand your business help

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you craft a plan for technology through

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simplification automation integration

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Innovation we help you figure out what

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is the best route for you and the best

111.36

way for you to use technology to they

114.2

get that technology sprawl maybe that

116.079

you have if you've been trying to work

117.84

on this for years or to give you like a

120.24

really good road map moving forward if

122.28

you're just starting out say how do I

125.159

how do I leverage technology not only

126.719

today but 6 months and six years from

129

now and doing so in a CA situation where

131.16

you're not like every year having to say

133.08

okay we got to like throw everything out

134.8

we got to rebuild everything we didn't

136.72

build anything that can grow so now

138.08

we've got a you know it's like having a

139.239

house and you have a kid every year and

141.12

then next year like buy a new house

142.44

build a new house build a new house

144.64

that's sort of how your business may be

146.28

because you're you grow sometimes very

148.12

quickly and we want to help you build a

149.92

solution that grows with you good things

152.92

and bad things oh this just like two

157.16

sides of the same not really two sides

158.48

the same coin but it's the same thing in

159.879

a sense because the good thing is we

161.68

finally managed to get out have a little

163.36

bit of time and just went and saw a

164.4

movie last night went and saw the latest

166.2

uh Captain America movie which was good

168.879

it's like haven't sat down and seen a mo

170.72

a Marvel theater movie in I don't know

173.04

how long it's been a while so it was a

174.879

fun time the bad side is it could have

177.519

been more fun because they didn't have

179.879

heat on in there so we sit down and like

183.4

two minutes I'm normally cold doesn't

185.76

bother me I'm not very far into the

187.799

movie where I'm like taking my coat off

189.319

and wrapping it around my legs because

190.76

my legs are freezing and I got jeans on

192.64

so it's not like I'm sitting there in

193.56

shorts or anything but it was cold and

196.2

it was like this is like odd little like

198.68

we're going to go down a rabbit a hole

200.08

little bit here on this one it's like

201.4

one of these odd things it was it was

202.879

cold and I had my coat on all that kind

204.239

of stuff but the thing that was driving

205.72

me nuts is my nose was so freaking cold

208.599

it was like when you're snow skin and

210.36

you got like your goggles you got your M

212

but only your little noses there and

213.48

it's like I could not figure out how to

215.4

like warm my no I wanted to just dip my

217.159

nose into like a cup of hot soup or

219.159

something like that it was just one of

220.879

those odd little things so I probably

222.879

over shared but that's okay because I'm

225.12

G to pass it on to somebody who may even

226.68

do the same Michael go ahead and

228.48

introduce yourself hey everyone my name

230.68

is Michael M I'm one of the co-founders

232.439

of developing n billing better

233.76

developers I'm also the founder of

235.64

Envision QA where we do very similar

238.4

things Rob's company does but we take

241.04

the approach of essentially the test

244.4

perspective from the user stories we

246.84

walk you through your company as your

249

user we understand how your software is

251.159

supposed to work or how your processes

253.28

work and then we make sure that the

255.04

software you have really is doing what

257.44

your business needs it to do if not we

259.84

can help you customize and create your

261.239

own software or we can help you find the

263.56

right tools to essentially grow your

265.919

business and streamline your

268.4

processes good bad this week uh good I

272.72

really knuckled down I got heads down uh

275.4

with one of the projects I'm working on

277.16

spent a great deal of time going through

280.24

data and figuring out processes as I

283.12

said and the bad side to that is I maybe

287.8

get to spend about 10 hours with my wife

289.8

this week so uh little too much work but

293

got a lot done but a little less time

295.8

with family uh just because I was so

297.84

heads down and trying to get things

299.72

moving forward so for those of you that

301.4

work a lot do try to make time for your

303.44

family because they are important to

306.08

us that is that is one of the things you

308.919

gotta like we got a lot going on you got

310.72

to make sure that you're keeping track

311.88

of that because you want that Personal

313.44

Touch you don't want like the cold kind

315.44

of Technology thing that AI might give

317.44

you so that's we'll say that's a good

319.479

little segue into I want to talk about

321.8

this time is AI and really leveraging AI

325.8

for tasks particularly like let's

328.44

there's a lot there's a lot of ways you

330

can go with it I really want to keep us

331.88

sort of focused on processes procedures

334.52

and

335.199

templates because that was the last

337.039

episode and this is sort of like the

338.8

next step maybe or maybe it's part of

341

that step uh for example last episode we

343.96

talked about the challenge being like

345.68

pick a process and create a template or

348.319

or like refine that process you find a

350.759

way to just do that a little better to

352.52

make a little bit of improvement now ai

354.919

is a way to do this now it's you may not

357.36

think of it but one of the nice things

360.039

about AI at this point is I'm going to

363.52

go actually I'm going to go with two

364.44

things so one of the nice things is two

366.039

things so if you're keeping track maybe

368.68

I don't do math good sometimes um one is

374

the the repetitive types of stuff the

376.479

templates that are out there it used to

378.72

be that you had to like you know get a

381

book or you know you had to pay like a

384

consultant or a company or something

385.479

like that to provide you with a template

387.08

that was pretty useful now a lot of

390.4

times AI can get you there very quickly

392.56

if you say write me uh you know I need a

396.599

template for an email for responding to

398.479

a customer request for you know a refund

401.52

or something like that or uh I need to I

405.039

like give me a template for building an

407.199

email that is just a cold call approach

409.4

to talking to somebody you will get

411.84

information back and you can actually

413.8

work with AI a little bit and do some

415.479

refinements and get something that is

416.919

very specific useful and what you want

420.52

you know what really like makes you you

422.879

and of course as long as you're there

424.36

you you can put your personal touch into

427.12

it so you can let AI get you you know

428.919

8020 rule get you 80% of the way there

431.44

and then you go back and you can say hey

433.84

i' like I want to tweak this I want to

436

add this I want to adjust that I'm

438.639

thinking about this and like that's one

439.759

of things I think I'm going to go back

440.72

and look at like maybe my elevator pitch

442.28

and some of that kind of stuff let's

443.28

talk about um but that's where AI can

445.919

help you out is it's then this is where

447.96

the part two of it is is it can give you

450.68

another voice another opinion on

453.199

whatever it is you're doing so even if

455.44

you're sitting there in a meeting room

457.599

with 15 people discussing options for

460.84

your business and how you want to go you

463

could throw something into Ai and now

465.08

you have plus one more and depending on

468.36

how you utilize AI sometimes you can

470.36

feed it information that is going to

473.12

help it have that opinion based on a

475.759

certain point of view so like some

478.039

people early on were like saying hey

480.4

give me write me a you know I'm going to

483.36

take the day off email for my boss but I

485.479

want it in the tone of a pirate or

487.199

something like that and it's like it'll

488.319

give you st that or you know take this

491.72

and then put it in the tone of that or

493.84

pretend like it's coming from you know

495.96

do take this email and make it like how

498

would Bart Simpson write it or something

499.68

like that what we can do is take some of

503.12

those those same kind of things is have

505.28

those conversations ask those questions

507.08

and say hey based on like this book

509.96

or this chunk of code or this thing or

512.039

that thing based on this

514.88

context tell me what I would expect to

517.399

get from you know what would I get

518.719

expect to get back if I put it in this

520.32

context because sometimes that gives you

522.32

not only another opinion but a very

524.279

focused and maybe even very educated

526.56

other opinion doesn't mean it's right

528.959

but it does give you that idea of like

531.519

hey I can get I can generate something

534.8

very quickly that otherwise might take

536.44

me a lot of

538

research there's a lot you can do there

540.68

that will help you take some of these

542.399

regular processes and procedures and

545.399

either get started you know give you a

547.44

really good template if you can't find a

548.92

template or help you refine the one you

551.32

have because you can take your template

553.079

and say hey I don't find like I don't

555.44

find this converting how would I write

557.72

you for example like how would I take

559.04

this web page and make it convert

561.92

customers better something like that and

564.16

you're going to get ideas they may not

565.64

be great it's like the you know the art

567.6

all the art AI we've seen where this guy

569.44

like people have 15 different hands or

571.16

something like that but if you take that

574.56

it can maybe there's going to be maybe

576.079

some thoughts or some ideas or some some

578.2

gems are going to be buried in there

579.72

you're like oh I didn't think about that

581

I'm going to take that and apply that

582.92

into my my content or whatever my

585.519

processes so right now I'm G an example

588.44

I'm not going to send it to an AI I'm

589.64

gonna give it to Michael and he's going

590.68

to give you his thoughts on this thanks

593.519

Rob so first thing I'll give you a

597

slight disclaimer with AI if don't put

600.04

anything in the AI that is

602.36

proprietary uh that if you're like

604.6

medical don't put in patient information

606.72

because anything you put into a any AI

609.76

tool they

611.36

own and you want to make sure that you

614.36

protect your intellectual rights your

616.44

copyrights things of that nature so you

618.68

do want to be a little cautious with

620.56

what you put in AI however with that

622.92

being said there is a lot we can do with

624.76

AI for instance if you have like a

628.12

podcast you can take the transcript from

630.36

the podcast feed it into Ai and have it

632.519

summarize some bullet points and then

634.68

you can quickly write your blog on that

637.279

I am guilty uh the other things you can

639.92

do is you could also for sad blog say

643.6

hey help me write some social media

646

posts on different platforms now a

648.8

little caveat with that you do have to

651.04

train it a little bit to get your

652.68

feedback like Rob said you kind of want

654.72

to maybe ask it for your different

656.88

audiences or that you're trying to talk

658.72

to so one of the cool features you can

660.8

do with AI is say hey write me that

663

social media post but then add a small

665.92

caveat and say hey write me this post

669.04

for these platforms but Target the

672.959

particular uh audiences of those

675.519

platforms and you actually will get a

678.04

different response for each platform now

681.72

it may not be exactly what you want but

683.639

it is going to give you a much better

685.24

starting point than starting from

686.92

scratch so typically that takes you less

690.36

than 30 seconds to type that into AI you

692.72

get the content and you may spend

694.519

another 15 minutes uh tweaking it and

697

then you can post it the best part is

699.12

that saves you probably an hour from

700.639

going out to every single social media

702.56

site try to write something out there or

704.6

writing one message copy and pasting it

706.519

to multiple platforms which then you

708.839

kind of get stale because then they're

710.68

either going to follow you on one not on

712.12

the other and you might not be hitting

714.72

the right audiences on different social

716.959

media

717.88

platforms uh some the other things with

720.44

AI which is really cool uh we kind of

722.68

talked about this I think in the

724.519

pre-show last time uh was if you are

728.88

working on your business or you're

730.12

building your business and you don't

731.76

have all the employees you need some of

734.44

the things you need to get started yes

736.32

branding but you also need some of that

738.199

HR and Internal Documentation that you

740.839

need you can use AI to say hey build me

744.16

a business plan or oh hey go build me a

747.8

employee manual or a CO of contact

750.279

conduct you can then take that and

752.279

refine it for your business instead of

754

you having to go hire someone to spend a

755.639

lot of time to build this if you don't

757

have the cash up front or the time you

759.079

can use the AI to get you something

761.199

there quickly may not be perfect but

763.959

it's enough to get you kind of the

766.04

groundwork to get your business going uh

768.32

and to make sure that you're covered in

769.72

certain

771.04

areas and lastly uh the thing that uh I

774.24

like you talked about um you know giving

776.279

you another voice it's actually funny

779.68

depending upon the AI tool you use so

783.32

don't just stick with one sometimes it's

785.279

better off going to different AI

787.72

channels is if you want a conversation

791.48

like hey I want a to write an article to

796.92

talk about this particular topic but I

799.12

am addressing or like say I'm talking to

801.76

a room of high school students college

804.079

kids adults businesses you can Target Ai

808.16

and ask them hey do this or how would

810.639

you respond to this the thing is do that

814.76

in multiple AI

817.639

chats repeat the process a couple of

820.24

times because different AI Bots are

822.36

trained differently and you're going to

824.44

get different responses some are better

826.399

than others some are great at writing

828.32

code some suck at writing code uh some

831

are really good at writing sonets and

832.88

others are really good at writing

835.199

business documents so you just have to

838

make sure you're using the write tool so

840.68

if you're writing or if you're using Ai

842.92

and you're typing in something but

844.12

you're not quite getting what you want

846.16

try another AI tool you might get a

848.44

different response that is more in line

850.36

with what you're looking for but before

853.12

you just go with that one I would take

854.959

this uh take the response from the one

856.88

that works and say copy that paste it

859.519

into the one that didn't quite work and

861

say okay this is kind of what I'm

862.68

looking for can you duplicate it and

865.759

sometimes just the different wording

868

inputs into AI will get you different

870.32

outputs so this also trains you on how

873.279

to talk to AI to help AI give you the

876.16

information you need

878.36

back I think that's probably the

882.199

probably the biggest thing is or the

884.199

biggest benefits you will get over time

886.399

with AI is the more you use it uh you

889.44

will learn just like what they referred

891

to as Google Fu back in the day your

892.68

ability to search and Google you're

894.199

going to get the same thing from AI but

895.92

it's that's part of it is it's a

898.36

learning system system so what you feed

900.88

it it's going to essentially regurgitate

902.759

back to you and so as you're getting in

904.56

there and building it you're going to

905.92

pause why Michael says something I was

907.959

just going to say uh that made me think

909.72

of the uh dragon dictionary the the talk

912.48

to speak because you had to spend a lot

914.6

of time training the software to get the

918.16

uh quality that you needed from the

919.8

software AI is a very similar

922.199

tool very much so and it's one of those

924.639

that like like anything else you you got

926.24

to give to get you're going to have to

928.24

spend some time put some effort into it

930.68

to train the tool and this is where you

932.88

it is valuable to have a actually log in

936.519

and have an account on these things yes

938.079

you can go in anonymously and all that

939.88

kind of stuff but there is a value to

941.72

having you know register and have that

943.24

so it can tie stuff to you now granted

945.88

you don't want to give up you know

947.399

personal information and stuff like that

949.48

but you do want to have some way to sort

952.319

of like have it learned from you or just

955.279

in the conver the conversations with the

957.319

AI go in there and and you know sort of

961.04

keep that conver keep that thread going

963.72

and you know say what about this or how

965.68

about this or what about this case and

967.48

then that's like that's feeding more

969.6

information into it and that's allowing

971.48

you to build out an actual intelligence

974.839

that is based off of where you want to

976.8

go with it now obviously if you start

979.44

sending it down a certain path then it's

981.04

going to go down that path and that may

982.759

not necessarily be what you want to do

984.279

so there is a value of hitting a fresh

986.88

AI you know different engine or

988.199

something like that that doesn't isn't

990.519

we say poisoned by your previous

993.44

conversations but instead gives you

995.399

maybe a way to you know think outside

997.519

the box and go in a different direction

1000.399

so those are I think that's why you're

1002.639

like anything else and just like we

1004.6

talked about last time don't do all the

1006.12

work and then not use it this is

1009

something where if you go in and you use

1010.56

AI for like one thing and never again

1012.56

then you're probably not going to get as

1014.199

much benefit as you do if you do it on a

1016.92

regular basis and it's an engine where

1018.44

it's able to essentially know you or

1020.319

remember you so because if you do that

1022.319

it's going to say like hey you asked me

1024.679

to do an email and then you ask me to do

1026.28

a status and so it's going to take the

1028.52

the tweaks that you did to those and

1031.079

carry those forward to your next thing

1032.559

so when you say well hey I want to do a

1033.799

proposal it's going to start having some

1035.919

of that information built into it to say

1037.959

like oh you typically go this direction

1041.28

and so it's going to start going that

1043.559

way so make sure you know that's where

1045.48

you put the effort in and you will get

1047.72

the effort back thoughts before a

1049.88

challenge so the last thing I will touch

1052.6

on with that is AI is still in its

1056.559

infant as far as the general public is

1059.559

concerned there are more advanced AI

1061.08

behind the scenes but if you go down one

1063.64

of those rabbit holes don't be afraid to

1066.559

tell AI hey this is not going in the

1069.28

direction I want roll it back the last

1072

thread that it was working was back up

1074.679

here that will also help train the AI

1077.72

that oh this isn't

1079.48

the right path or the right you

1081.88

essentially have to tell it when it's

1083.44

not doing the right thing don't just use

1085.44

the check marks and thing I find those

1087

don't work as well if you actually tell

1089

AI hey that is not the response I want

1092.679

but give it feedback tell it hey I

1095.36

actually was looking for something a

1097.159

little bit more along the lines of this

1099.6

sometimes that will immediately get the

1101

AI back on track and you can keep the

1102.799

message

1104.12

going yeah it's it just like because I

1107.44

always think of those art things where

1108.84

it's like you know just an insane like

1110.919

really bad picture um sometimes you have

1113.64

to it will go off the rails just like we

1115.6

do sometimes and so you you do something

1118.08

to essentially reset it and get it back

1119.64

on track um because you usually you're

1121.919

going to be able to notice when it's

1123.12

suddenly like you know you're talking

1124.44

about you know a chicken recipe and the

1127.28

next thing you is telling you like how

1128.48

to kill people a thousand different ways

1129.96

like okay we've gotten off track let's

1131.6

like roll back to where we want to go

1133.28

with it sometimes those weird things

1135.48

happen uh sometimes there from a

1137.96

business point of view sometimes it may

1139.36

get you down a path you're saying like

1140.64

oh I just found a whole new line of

1141.919

business so sometimes it's okay to go

1143.48

down those rabbit Trails Trails but just

1145.76

be aware when you do so because

1147.559

sometimes there's like it's a bad Trail

1149.679

to go down I'll leave it at that

1153

challenge for the week is try it try out

1157.28

AI take one of these things um the

1160.2

easiest stuff is like take an email

1162.2

response particularly if it's one that

1163.679

you do on a regular basis or if it's

1165.44

already one that you've got a

1166.52

autoresponder that's like I always send

1168.36

this thing say take something like that

1171.12

or one of these templates that hopefully

1172.559

you've now created from prior Challenge

1175.6

and put it in Ai and just say is there a

1178.559

better way for me to take this and

1181.4

accomplish whatever your goal is you

1182.96

know for example like email if it is uh

1186.4

a response to request from a customer or

1188.76

potential customer throw it into Ai and

1190.919

say hey is

1193.48

there take this response and make it

1196.44

better if I want to sell to a customer

1198.96

or how do I make this response more

1201.44

likely to have a customer respond in a

1203.72

positive way you know things like that

1206.159

and then see how it goes see where it

1208

goes take a couple of those things and

1210.44

you'll get something different and if

1212.919

you use it then it may be a good

1214.679

opportunity for you to make some

1216.039

improvements on it so go for it I mean

1219.36

one of the best things you can do is say

1220.919

hey how do I make building better

1222.72

developers better and one of the ways

1226.159

and it's probably going to tell you I

1227.28

should almost I almost wanted to go do

1228.76

this right now it's probably going to

1229.76

say send an email to info@ developer

1231.679

nerd.com because that is going to be a

1234.08

great way to get your opinion heard and

1236.2

for us to hear where you want to go and

1238.159

to integrate that into future episodes

1240.76

also and this was where AI may give you

1242.919

other options like you could go into the

1244.72

contact us form on developer or.com you

1247.76

can leave feedback anything any article

1250.039

on developer or.com you can leave

1251.64

feedback wherever you hear podcasts you

1253.799

can leave feedback out on the developer

1255.24

nerd Channel on YouTube and if AI

1257.159

doesn't give you these answers then you

1259.08

need to go to a better AI because

1260.52

obviously that one is not the I is

1262.48

pretty weak and it's mostly just a big a

1264.4

a lot of artificial not a lot of

1266.52

intelligence yeah I'm throwing shade at

1268.559

the AI engines out there just deal with

1271.08

it so now we're going to be block we're

1272.96

like blacklisted every every be like I

1275.64

don't know what the heck that is that

1276.76

just sounds stupid don't talk to those

1278.36

people they're anti- AI they're probably

1280.679

like they need to be arrested or

1282

something like

1283.039

that see sometimes we go off the rails

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too that being said we're going to let

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you get your day back on the rails go

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out there and have yourself a great day

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a great time and we will talk to you

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next time bonus

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material

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so just a little additional tack on from

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the previous uh discussion is as you're

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building your business or as you're

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working your business run through some

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AI if you are questioning or not sure

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what to do ask AI however

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be very careful with certain things that

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you go to AI for for instance if you go

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ask it for tax uh information or how to

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file taxes or do things with taxes be

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careful with that make sure you take

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whatever you have and actually verify

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that with the CPA because you don't want

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to do something that AI says oh yeah

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this is right and it's completely

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illegal so just be very cautious with

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certain areas of the business still

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right now with AI use it though play

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with it see what you can do with it and

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really challenge it you know if you have

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this idea for something uh again watch

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out for intellectual properties but try

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to train AI for instance to build me a

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better mouse trap and just play around

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with that or for those of you Gamers out

1366.84

there uh you know try to do a Dungeons

1369.52

and Dragon Story with it try to play

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like a little DM make AI or DM uh those

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are very good ways to just kind of get

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integrated with AI and start learning it

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and start playing with it yeah those are

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I think those kind of the what's for

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lack of better term we'll call like the

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gamification of AI is I think there's a

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lot of little things like that that you

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can do even for entertainment so it

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could be stuff like ask AI to write a

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story

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about I don't know like a you know a

1401.84

trip to the coast or something like that

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just pick something and and see where it

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goes with it I think those kinds of

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things just getting used to

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what it brings to the table um I think

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is is probably going to be you know

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probably one of the best ways for you to

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to get to know it to get

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to understand where you can go with it

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and and it really is it's like for lack

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of learning it's language it's like how

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do I take this and make

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it make this uh this story or this

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response something that is in line with

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what I'm looking for and not just you

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know just some random thing sort of like

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gole Google searches it's like how do I

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make sure that this is like I'm on the

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page one of the search results and I'm

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not like 4,000 Pages down and I'm

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getting to something that has really

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nothing to do with what I'm what I'm

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actually looking for it's like that will

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and it's you know it's again it's one of

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those things that like I think the more

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you do it the more you get comfortable

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with it the more likely you're going to

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do it more often I I found that for me

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at very at the very least is that

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initially I would like I would do AI

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here and there and and do these various

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things but then

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you know I got to a point where I was

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like wow this is

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like this is something that I can use

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for for this process and this process

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and this process and this process and

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it's it's more and more I do stuff where

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it's like it's there's sites out there

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that that leverage this kind of stuff

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that you know they've gotten me thinking

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like oh well I could do something like

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that you know there's like there's all

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these little things that I'll stop there

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like the more you use it I think the

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more you'll be comfortable using it and

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the better the better it'll be for you

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you know moving forward closing thoughts

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yeah the only other thing I would throw

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out there is if

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you have like this kind of goes back to

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some of our other discussions um about

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like growing your business and things of

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that nature if you have a lot of like

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daily tax things that you do or you find

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yourself overwhelmed by working on the

1521.44

business not in the business run those

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ideas through AI treat AI as like a

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virtual assistant and see what it comes

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back with to help you streamline your

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processes

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that yeah that goes back to like yeah

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this is a sec it's a second set of

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another opinion it's a second set of

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eyes or a third set of eyes or however

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you look at it so it's like everything

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else is like find the way to use the

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tool the way the tool needs to be used

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like if it's a nail make sure you've got

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a hammer if you've got to cut a board

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Hammer is not very useful use it as a

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saw it's that same kind of thing as

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understanding how to use

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that tool that being said we'll wrap

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this one up so thank you so much for

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your time as always we appreciate you

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the AI appreciates you even if it

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doesn't appreciate me now because I

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threw shade hey that's life and it's

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life so go out there and live it as

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Michael says that is one of the things

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it's more important than work so go out

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there have yourself a great time and we

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will talk to you next time around

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